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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2007/03/05/how-recession-proof-is-your-copywriting-business/comment-page-1/#comment-53096</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laureen: Wow. that&#039;s a long comment. 

First, you seem almost defensive about your chosen field. And yes, you seem to be overthinking it. 

I&#039;ve outlined a fairly active approach to pitching and winning your dream clients (you can see the whole category of &quot;Dream Client&quot; posts &lt;a href=&quot;http://copywriterunderground.com/category/dream-clients/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). 

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laureen: Wow. that&#8217;s a long comment. </p>
<p>First, you seem almost defensive about your chosen field. And yes, you seem to be overthinking it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve outlined a fairly active approach to pitching and winning your dream clients (you can see the whole category of &#8220;Dream Client&#8221; posts <a href="http://copywriterunderground.com/category/dream-clients/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Laureen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice and comments!

Do you have any advice about writing  product/service development pieces for manufacturers of pet supplies and horse supplies, or pet and horse service suppliers. 

The pet industry is continually growing, and the horse industry and related industries are also huge and ever-growing consumer based markets. I have developed a list with full contact information for the pet product manufacturers nationally and internationally but it has been a little more challenging to find resources and contacts for horse related products. 

These two industries have been a major part of my personal and professional life for over twenty five years. I have extensive knowledge and professional credentials as a small animal technician, dog salon owner, Equestrian federation certified riding coach, competitive rider in many disciplines, and have a  bachelor  of applied communications degree in technical writing.

I have freelanced as a journalist writing mostly animal related stories. These types of stories just seem to find me because people in the area associate me with the pet and horse industry. I would like to use my skill as a creative writer, journalist, and technical writer in the areas of web writing, and manufacturing/ services writing. People come to me for advice all the time and I wonder how I can best meet the needs of the service provider , manufacturer and consumer. Do you have any experiences or advice that you could share. 

My creative journalism and magazine article writing pieces have been very well received and people often ask where or who I&#039;m writing for now.

I thought I might find some work at the University but feel that my creativity often is seen as a threat or weirdness in the more office-like environment, so I worry. I have taught employees to do their animal related jobs and can generate a fantastically electrified team.   

I have led some clients to the water trough and they are starting to drink. One service provider needs web copy. Another, needs a proposal to have her specialized dog collars in a particular store during the Calgary Stampede.

These are small companies, but it is a start in my pet/horse industry writing career.

Writing for my own marketing is tough. I&#039;d much rather write for someone else. I am currently filling out my own creative brief to help me hit my target audience. Somehow I still feel a bit overwhelmed. Any advice to help sort out a doable set of small goals to reach my big goals would be appreciated. I can tend to over think things.

Cheers,
Laureen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice and comments!</p>
<p>Do you have any advice about writing  product/service development pieces for manufacturers of pet supplies and horse supplies, or pet and horse service suppliers. </p>
<p>The pet industry is continually growing, and the horse industry and related industries are also huge and ever-growing consumer based markets. I have developed a list with full contact information for the pet product manufacturers nationally and internationally but it has been a little more challenging to find resources and contacts for horse related products. </p>
<p>These two industries have been a major part of my personal and professional life for over twenty five years. I have extensive knowledge and professional credentials as a small animal technician, dog salon owner, Equestrian federation certified riding coach, competitive rider in many disciplines, and have a  bachelor  of applied communications degree in technical writing.</p>
<p>I have freelanced as a journalist writing mostly animal related stories. These types of stories just seem to find me because people in the area associate me with the pet and horse industry. I would like to use my skill as a creative writer, journalist, and technical writer in the areas of web writing, and manufacturing/ services writing. People come to me for advice all the time and I wonder how I can best meet the needs of the service provider , manufacturer and consumer. Do you have any experiences or advice that you could share. </p>
<p>My creative journalism and magazine article writing pieces have been very well received and people often ask where or who I&#8217;m writing for now.</p>
<p>I thought I might find some work at the University but feel that my creativity often is seen as a threat or weirdness in the more office-like environment, so I worry. I have taught employees to do their animal related jobs and can generate a fantastically electrified team.   </p>
<p>I have led some clients to the water trough and they are starting to drink. One service provider needs web copy. Another, needs a proposal to have her specialized dog collars in a particular store during the Calgary Stampede.</p>
<p>These are small companies, but it is a start in my pet/horse industry writing career.</p>
<p>Writing for my own marketing is tough. I&#8217;d much rather write for someone else. I am currently filling out my own creative brief to help me hit my target audience. Somehow I still feel a bit overwhelmed. Any advice to help sort out a doable set of small goals to reach my big goals would be appreciated. I can tend to over think things.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Laureen</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Minarcin</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2007/03/05/how-recession-proof-is-your-copywriting-business/comment-page-1/#comment-3072</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Minarcin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom, I will take you up on that kind offer (contacting you via contact form) and will no doubt be picking your brain again sometime soon!

All the best, 

Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom, I will take you up on that kind offer (contacting you via contact form) and will no doubt be picking your brain again sometime soon!</p>
<p>All the best, </p>
<p>Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2007/03/05/how-recession-proof-is-your-copywriting-business/comment-page-1/#comment-3057</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Roberta! A lot of my B2B was in high tech, which did take a hit post-dot.bomb.

Susan: Get that Web site done. I wouldn&#039;t overstress about Greenspan&#039;s comments, but use them as motivation to build your business. 

It&#039;s hard when you don&#039;t have a track record or portfolio to sling on someone&#039;s desk, but it&#039;s not impossible. You say you&#039;re in contact with local PR firms, design agencies, etc. That&#039;s good.

As for developing a niche, that&#039;s tougher. Still, the question I would ask is what kind of writing do you &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to do? What markets do you &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to write for?

What companies interest you?

The thinking is this: if you&#039;re going to write, write about things that interest you.

Once you&#039;re clear on your targets, make a plan. Identify the people you should be talking to, and pitch them. 

I know it&#039;s difficult for many writers to pitch themselves, but it&#039;s part and parcel of a successful business. 

Part of the block is many writers don&#039;t understand the value they offer (or perhaps they don&#039;t offer much value).

Make sure you&#039;re doing more for your clients than filling space, and then make sure everyone knows it.

And Susan, feel free to contact me via this blogs contact form if you have any specific questions.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Roberta! A lot of my B2B was in high tech, which did take a hit post-dot.bomb.</p>
<p>Susan: Get that Web site done. I wouldn&#8217;t overstress about Greenspan&#8217;s comments, but use them as motivation to build your business. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard when you don&#8217;t have a track record or portfolio to sling on someone&#8217;s desk, but it&#8217;s not impossible. You say you&#8217;re in contact with local PR firms, design agencies, etc. That&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>As for developing a niche, that&#8217;s tougher. Still, the question I would ask is what kind of writing do you <i>want</i> to do? What markets do you <i>want</i> to write for?</p>
<p>What companies interest you?</p>
<p>The thinking is this: if you&#8217;re going to write, write about things that interest you.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;re clear on your targets, make a plan. Identify the people you should be talking to, and pitch them. </p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s difficult for many writers to pitch themselves, but it&#8217;s part and parcel of a successful business. </p>
<p>Part of the block is many writers don&#8217;t understand the value they offer (or perhaps they don&#8217;t offer much value).</p>
<p>Make sure you&#8217;re doing more for your clients than filling space, and then make sure everyone knows it.</p>
<p>And Susan, feel free to contact me via this blogs contact form if you have any specific questions.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Rosenberg, The Copywriting Maven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Rosenberg, The Copywriting Maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Tom! In the last 20 years I&#039;ve been out here on my own, my B2B clients, and that would include publishing and association industry clients, have generally been pretty recession proof. But taking the advice of some smart internet marketing folks, there&#039;s a lot to be said for taking your copywriting/marketing smarts and putting it to work for yourself. That&#039;s why, in addition to the my copywriting/marketing consultancy, I also own a popular nice ecommerce site and a small niche publishing company.

Working multiple streams of income keeps my hair from turning white :=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Tom! In the last 20 years I&#8217;ve been out here on my own, my B2B clients, and that would include publishing and association industry clients, have generally been pretty recession proof. But taking the advice of some smart internet marketing folks, there&#8217;s a lot to be said for taking your copywriting/marketing smarts and putting it to work for yourself. That&#8217;s why, in addition to the my copywriting/marketing consultancy, I also own a popular nice ecommerce site and a small niche publishing company.</p>
<p>Working multiple streams of income keeps my hair from turning white :=)</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Minarcin</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2007/03/05/how-recession-proof-is-your-copywriting-business/comment-page-1/#comment-3021</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Minarcin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now I&#039;m doing anything I can get my hands on that pays decently.  I came out of big publishing (text books) two years ago (disillusioned and kinda beat-up by the corporate experience) and promptly went to work doing things other than writing and editing.  Still, I love doing this kind of work and found myself picking up jobs when ever I could.  When I finally got serious about doing this full-time, I realized that the text book connections I have aren&#039;t going to keep me alive, and that most of the money seems to be going to those working in copy writing.  So, I started cruising sites like this one to learn all that I could.  I&#039;ve been picking up a fair amount of work re-writing web copy and have just recently started to target local businesses (as per your posted suggestion) to try and create work instead of just waiting for it to show up.  It&#039;s a great strategy â€“ Iâ€™m building the web site, trying to figure out what I can blog about -- I can feel the momentum building.  So, hearing Greenspanâ€™s comments and then watching the world markets go haywire â€“ well, I have to admit, it shakes me up.  As it is, people donâ€™t value writing (since, of course, every one can do it!) and recession or not â€“ itâ€™s an up hill climb!  

I&#039;d like to work more on developing a niche market for my writing but it&#039;s a technique that I&#039;m not entirely clear on.  Do you have any advice you can share on this?  What sort of questions do I need to be asking myself to grab a foothold; that kind of thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now I&#8217;m doing anything I can get my hands on that pays decently.  I came out of big publishing (text books) two years ago (disillusioned and kinda beat-up by the corporate experience) and promptly went to work doing things other than writing and editing.  Still, I love doing this kind of work and found myself picking up jobs when ever I could.  When I finally got serious about doing this full-time, I realized that the text book connections I have aren&#8217;t going to keep me alive, and that most of the money seems to be going to those working in copy writing.  So, I started cruising sites like this one to learn all that I could.  I&#8217;ve been picking up a fair amount of work re-writing web copy and have just recently started to target local businesses (as per your posted suggestion) to try and create work instead of just waiting for it to show up.  It&#8217;s a great strategy â€“ Iâ€™m building the web site, trying to figure out what I can blog about &#8212; I can feel the momentum building.  So, hearing Greenspanâ€™s comments and then watching the world markets go haywire â€“ well, I have to admit, it shakes me up.  As it is, people donâ€™t value writing (since, of course, every one can do it!) and recession or not â€“ itâ€™s an up hill climb!  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to work more on developing a niche market for my writing but it&#8217;s a technique that I&#8217;m not entirely clear on.  Do you have any advice you can share on this?  What sort of questions do I need to be asking myself to grab a foothold; that kind of thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrell: I tell my small business clients that marketing is a process, not an event. For some, that means as little as setting aside one hour a week to market (that&#039;s why my Fifteen Minute Friday Pitch Posts).

The real key is to develop a plan and make it a routine. e-Newsletter, blog, sales letters... try &#039;em all.

Susan: New writers need to do what the established writers do. It just takes longer. Remember my recent &quot;Tired of low-paid SEO writing...&quot; post? 

Even if you&#039;re not writing SEO work, the same principles apply. Get a Web site, decide on the markets/work you want, make a marketing plan, and make it happen.

What kind of writing are you doing? What do you want to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrell: I tell my small business clients that marketing is a process, not an event. For some, that means as little as setting aside one hour a week to market (that&#8217;s why my Fifteen Minute Friday Pitch Posts).</p>
<p>The real key is to develop a plan and make it a routine. e-Newsletter, blog, sales letters&#8230; try &#8216;em all.</p>
<p>Susan: New writers need to do what the established writers do. It just takes longer. Remember my recent &#8220;Tired of low-paid SEO writing&#8230;&#8221; post? </p>
<p>Even if you&#8217;re not writing SEO work, the same principles apply. Get a Web site, decide on the markets/work you want, make a marketing plan, and make it happen.</p>
<p>What kind of writing are you doing? What do you want to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Minarcin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Minarcin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, Tom.  I agree with what you&#039;ve said here; itâ€™s sound and pragmatic advice for the seasoned pro.  But, what about the newbie?  The NYSE and other world markets are unstable, Greenspan points the icy finger of doom -- so seriously, what&#039;s a newbie to do?  Do we hang-up our lap-tops before they&#039;ve even really warmed up?  Or, do we reason that cutting a little fat from the heard is always a good thing and trust that good writing will get us through?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Tom.  I agree with what you&#8217;ve said here; itâ€™s sound and pragmatic advice for the seasoned pro.  But, what about the newbie?  The NYSE and other world markets are unstable, Greenspan points the icy finger of doom &#8212; so seriously, what&#8217;s a newbie to do?  Do we hang-up our lap-tops before they&#8217;ve even really warmed up?  Or, do we reason that cutting a little fat from the heard is always a good thing and trust that good writing will get us through?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrell Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrell Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post really rings true. It&#039;s a common lament of almost every freelancer I know (writers as well as designers and others) that marketing is something we all fail to put enough energy into, believing that it&#039;s an onerous task. But something as simple as the newsletter you mention can yield results far beyond what we might imagine at first. Thanks for the advice, hopefully I&#039;ll heed it myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post really rings true. It&#8217;s a common lament of almost every freelancer I know (writers as well as designers and others) that marketing is something we all fail to put enough energy into, believing that it&#8217;s an onerous task. But something as simple as the newsletter you mention can yield results far beyond what we might imagine at first. Thanks for the advice, hopefully I&#8217;ll heed it myself!</p>
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