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	<title>Comments on: How to Pitch &amp; Win Your Dream Copywriting Clients (or, Life&#8217;s Too Short to Work With Boring Clients)</title>
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		<title>By: nil</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right - Glyphius is a great option for fine-tuning all of your copy. I used to run with what just felt good and sometimes your gut just ain&#039;t right. Glyphius (www.glyphius.com) has helped guide me to know what is really effetive online</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; Glyphius is a great option for fine-tuning all of your copy. I used to run with what just felt good and sometimes your gut just ain&#8217;t right. Glyphius (www.glyphius.com) has helped guide me to know what is really effetive online</p>
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		<title>By: Freelance Writing Jobs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Link Love for May 18, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelance Writing Jobs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekend Link Love for May 18, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Pitch and Win Your Dream Copywriting Clients at Copywriter Underground. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2008/05/15/how-to-pitch-win-your-dream-copywriting-clients-or-lifes-too-short-to-work-with-boring-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-42088</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy: Good points. You don&#039;t want to give away the store, and heaping your good ideas on the conference table and walking out is a bad idea.

In this case, I wasn&#039;t pitching copywriting. I was selling the benefits of a long-term engagement marketing program, an act which requires some education. 

I like the diagnostic idea, but if I&#039;d simply laid such an offer on the table (and they weren&#039;t looking for copywriter to begin with), I&#039;d have wasted their time and mine.

I approach this kind of pitch the same way a salesperson might view selling enterprise-level software to a company. It&#039;s not something that happens overnight. 

At one point, the client asked me to attend a conference call with her consultants, and I cordially backed away, suggesting I&#039;d be happy to educate everyone involved once I was being paid to do so. 

Selling to bigger businesses often demands you tell half the story. The last thing you want -- as you pointed out -- is for all your ideas to be handed over for free, so a client can start shopping for the best deal.

Sell the benefits, but keep the details and technology largely to yourself. 

Thanks for the thought-provoking comment. There are so many levels to this stuff, and I think it&#039;s helpful for folks to see differing viewpoints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy: Good points. You don&#8217;t want to give away the store, and heaping your good ideas on the conference table and walking out is a bad idea.</p>
<p>In this case, I wasn&#8217;t pitching copywriting. I was selling the benefits of a long-term engagement marketing program, an act which requires some education. </p>
<p>I like the diagnostic idea, but if I&#8217;d simply laid such an offer on the table (and they weren&#8217;t looking for copywriter to begin with), I&#8217;d have wasted their time and mine.</p>
<p>I approach this kind of pitch the same way a salesperson might view selling enterprise-level software to a company. It&#8217;s not something that happens overnight. </p>
<p>At one point, the client asked me to attend a conference call with her consultants, and I cordially backed away, suggesting I&#8217;d be happy to educate everyone involved once I was being paid to do so. </p>
<p>Selling to bigger businesses often demands you tell half the story. The last thing you want &#8212; as you pointed out &#8212; is for all your ideas to be handed over for free, so a client can start shopping for the best deal.</p>
<p>Sell the benefits, but keep the details and technology largely to yourself. </p>
<p>Thanks for the thought-provoking comment. There are so many levels to this stuff, and I think it&#8217;s helpful for folks to see differing viewpoints.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Goodwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience has been completely different. When a client wants to spend an hour or so &quot;just talking,&quot; they tend to be a high maintenance client...if they become a client at all! Usually they take my ideas, shrug and say, &quot;Well, I&#039;ll think about it...&quot; 

So I prefer to offer instead a no-pitch, no-sales copy diagnostic/jumpstart. If clients hire me afterward, they can deduct the fee. If they prefer to do-it-themselves or  hire another writer, no problem. 

I also sell my own products and am working on some classes and group products. So when times are slow, I become my own best client!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience has been completely different. When a client wants to spend an hour or so &#8220;just talking,&#8221; they tend to be a high maintenance client&#8230;if they become a client at all! Usually they take my ideas, shrug and say, &#8220;Well, I&#8217;ll think about it&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>So I prefer to offer instead a no-pitch, no-sales copy diagnostic/jumpstart. If clients hire me afterward, they can deduct the fee. If they prefer to do-it-themselves or  hire another writer, no problem. </p>
<p>I also sell my own products and am working on some classes and group products. So when times are slow, I become my own best client!</p>
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		<title>By: Links for 16-05-2008 &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2008/05/15/how-to-pitch-win-your-dream-copywriting-clients-or-lifes-too-short-to-work-with-boring-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-42069</link>
		<dc:creator>Links for 16-05-2008 &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - How to Pitch &amp; Win Your Dream Copywriting Clients (or, Life’s Too Short to Work With Boring C... &#8220;Lumpy mailers have gotten a bad rap; some feel they’re misleading [...] but in this case, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; How to Pitch &#38; Win Your Dream Copywriting Clients (or, Life’s Too Short to Work With Boring C&#8230; &#8220;Lumpy mailers have gotten a bad rap; some feel they’re misleading [...] but in this case, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole: Sounds great, and I&#039;m glad to hear you&#039;ve developed something that works.

Your idea is sound, and the ability to quickly get something in the mail - containing a custom message designed to fit the situation -- is helpful. 

My personality suggests I add a smile to the equation, which is why I usually prefer a toy or other &quot;fun&quot; goodie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole: Sounds great, and I&#8217;m glad to hear you&#8217;ve developed something that works.</p>
<p>Your idea is sound, and the ability to quickly get something in the mail &#8211; containing a custom message designed to fit the situation &#8212; is helpful. </p>
<p>My personality suggests I add a smile to the equation, which is why I usually prefer a toy or other &#8220;fun&#8221; goodie.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Amsler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2008/05/15/how-to-pitch-win-your-dream-copywriting-clients-or-lifes-too-short-to-work-with-boring-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-42047</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Amsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company name is Keylocke so I have a successful little promo where I send a skeleton key with a letter about how the solution is always hidden within the problem. The key offers to help them &quot;unlock new solutions to_______.&quot;

It has worked rather well and I have a drawer full of inexpensive but suitably lumpy keys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company name is Keylocke so I have a successful little promo where I send a skeleton key with a letter about how the solution is always hidden within the problem. The key offers to help them &#8220;unlock new solutions to_______.&#8221;</p>
<p>It has worked rather well and I have a drawer full of inexpensive but suitably lumpy keys.</p>
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