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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/06/12/an-underground-replay-pay-the-damned-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-94712</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-71864&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-71864&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul Lagasse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Is it naive of me to hope that companies that continue to “hire” free writers will a) get what they pay for and b) not know the difference, and thus embark on an ever-downward quality spiral that will help make the choice more clear for companies that are willing to pay for quality?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Google&#039;s robots certainly can&#039;t tell good copy from bad, and I have a feeling that &quot;free&quot; remains a quality all its own. 

In the fly fishing niche (I write a top blog there), inaccurate, bland, poorly written &quot;articles&quot; appear all the time in Google search results, so apparently &quot;free&quot; has a quality all its own...</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-71864" rel="nofollow">Paul Lagasse</a></strong>: Is it naive of me to hope that companies that continue to “hire” free writers will a) get what they pay for and b) not know the difference, and thus embark on an ever-downward quality spiral that will help make the choice more clear for companies that are willing to pay for quality?</p>
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<p>Google&#8217;s robots certainly can&#8217;t tell good copy from bad, and I have a feeling that &#8220;free&#8221; remains a quality all its own. </p>
<p>In the fly fishing niche (I write a top blog there), inaccurate, bland, poorly written &#8220;articles&#8221; appear all the time in Google search results, so apparently &#8220;free&#8221; has a quality all its own&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beasquarepeg</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/06/12/an-underground-replay-pay-the-damned-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-93375</link>
		<dc:creator>beasquarepeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work deserves great pay. The trouble with writing is that too often non-writers consider it &quot;only&quot; an art. However, when we start asking for money for our writing, it becomes more than just art, it becomes a business. We should remember that and act appropriately. As writers, we all need to have a lot more respect for ourselves and our work, because if we don&#039;t, no one will. If we undersell our talent and keep on underselling it, then we&#039;re heading down a road where writers ending up treated like second-class citizens as a matter of course.
.-= beasquarepeg&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beasquarepeg.com/blog/a-definition-of-a-square-peg-is&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Our Definition Of A Square Peg&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work deserves great pay. The trouble with writing is that too often non-writers consider it &#8220;only&#8221; an art. However, when we start asking for money for our writing, it becomes more than just art, it becomes a business. We should remember that and act appropriately. As writers, we all need to have a lot more respect for ourselves and our work, because if we don&#8217;t, no one will. If we undersell our talent and keep on underselling it, then we&#8217;re heading down a road where writers ending up treated like second-class citizens as a matter of course.<br />
<span class="cluv"> beasquarepeg&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.beasquarepeg.com/blog/a-definition-of-a-square-peg-is" rel="nofollow">Our Definition Of A Square Peg</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lagasse</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/06/12/an-underground-replay-pay-the-damned-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-71864</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lagasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it naive of me to hope that companies that continue to &quot;hire&quot; free writers will a) get what they pay for and b) not know the difference, and thus embark on an ever-downward quality spiral that will help make the choice more clear for companies that are willing to pay for quality?
[rq=27278,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avwrites.com/wordpress/?p=225&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;word diagnostics&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it naive of me to hope that companies that continue to &#8220;hire&#8221; free writers will a) get what they pay for and b) not know the difference, and thus embark on an ever-downward quality spiral that will help make the choice more clear for companies that are willing to pay for quality?<br />
<span class="cluv">Paul Lagasse&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.avwrites.com/wordpress/?p=225" rel="nofollow">word diagnostics</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/06/12/an-underground-replay-pay-the-damned-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-71714</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-71591&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-71591&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lloyd Lemons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Seems even worse in the digital age, than it was in the dead-tree era. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s much worse, though a lot of it has to do with digital writing&#039;s accessibility to parttimers. In the dead tree era, there were bigger barriers to overcome, which eliminated many of the amateurs. 

In any case, it is what it is, and adaptability&#039;s the key.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-71591" rel="nofollow">Lloyd Lemons</a></strong>: Seems even worse in the digital age, than it was in the dead-tree era.
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<p>It&#8217;s much worse, though a lot of it has to do with digital writing&#8217;s accessibility to parttimers. In the dead tree era, there were bigger barriers to overcome, which eliminated many of the amateurs. </p>
<p>In any case, it is what it is, and adaptability&#8217;s the key.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Lemons</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/06/12/an-underground-replay-pay-the-damned-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-71591</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Lemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that! The amateurs make it so hard for the pros when they continue to give away their stuff. Seems even worse in the digital age, than it was in the dead-tree era. Will we ever get the respect we deserve?
[rq=15712,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lloydlemons.com/main/2008/12/back-to-marketing-basics.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Back to marketing basics&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that! The amateurs make it so hard for the pros when they continue to give away their stuff. Seems even worse in the digital age, than it was in the dead-tree era. Will we ever get the respect we deserve?<br />
<span class="cluv">Lloyd Lemons&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.lloydlemons.com/main/2008/12/back-to-marketing-basics.html" rel="nofollow">Back to marketing basics</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/06/12/an-underground-replay-pay-the-damned-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-70974</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this should be required viewing for those who are happy to &quot;donate&quot; their work helping others become more profitable. 

Harlan&#039;s rant will likely fall on deaf ears; the oversupply of writers is sizable, and doesn&#039;t look to be ending anytime soon.
[rq=8925,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://chandlerwrites.com/2009/02/24/online-marketing-boot-camp-sells-out-more-dates-added/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Online Marketing Boot Camp Sells Out, More Dates Added&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this should be required viewing for those who are happy to &#8220;donate&#8221; their work helping others become more profitable. </p>
<p>Harlan&#8217;s rant will likely fall on deaf ears; the oversupply of writers is sizable, and doesn&#8217;t look to be ending anytime soon.<br />
<span class="cluv">Tom Chandler&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://chandlerwrites.com/2009/02/24/online-marketing-boot-camp-sells-out-more-dates-added/" rel="nofollow">Online Marketing Boot Camp Sells Out, More Dates Added</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Rhyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be a primer for every keyboard stroker out there that will work for nothing and/or peanuts. &quot;The story is everything!!!&quot;

Stop giving it away dammit!  Your intellectual rights and ability are worth gold to those that clamor for them...they make the bucks off your sweat equity and you get an &quot;attaboy.&quot;

There&#039;s an old poem that starts off:

&quot;I bargained with life for a penny...&quot;

READ IT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be a primer for every keyboard stroker out there that will work for nothing and/or peanuts. &#8220;The story is everything!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Stop giving it away dammit!  Your intellectual rights and ability are worth gold to those that clamor for them&#8230;they make the bucks off your sweat equity and you get an &#8220;attaboy.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an old poem that starts off:</p>
<p>&#8220;I bargained with life for a penny&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>READ IT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Web Media Daily &#8211; Friday June 12, 2009 &#124; Reinventing Yourself...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Media Daily &#8211; Friday June 12, 2009 &#124; Reinventing Yourself...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An Underground Replay: “Pay The Damned Writer” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roberta Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The message just never gets old, does it?
[rq=5359,0,blog][/rq]&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheCopywritingMaven/~3/8mORVprbnwo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spam Funnies: If you gave a gold fish a bigger instrument …&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message just never gets old, does it?<br />
<span class="cluv">Roberta Rosenberg&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheCopywritingMaven/~3/8mORVprbnwo/" rel="nofollow">Spam Funnies: If you gave a gold fish a bigger instrument …</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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