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		<title>Comment on The Undead Copywriter Staggers Forth With a New Post by Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/10/18/the-undead-copywriter-staggers-forth-with-a-new-post/comment-page-1/#comment-116341</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a kid shows up, the last thing you need is an extra workload. Thus, moving just a week before the birth does technically qualify you as &quot;insane.&quot; 

As for the whiteboard thing, I mentioned my big paper-based image map to a Web client, and he seemed so offended by the idea (too low tech) that I pretended I was doing it on the PC...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a kid shows up, the last thing you need is an extra workload. Thus, moving just a week before the birth does technically qualify you as &#8220;insane.&#8221; </p>
<p>As for the whiteboard thing, I mentioned my big paper-based image map to a Web client, and he seemed so offended by the idea (too low tech) that I pretended I was doing it on the PC&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Undead Copywriter Staggers Forth With a New Post by Carson Brackney</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/10/18/the-undead-copywriter-staggers-forth-with-a-new-post/comment-page-1/#comment-114579</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Brackney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a low-hanging giant whiteboard on the wall and an assortment of fine-tipped markers for creating those maps when necessary.  I&#039;m with you--drawing them works so much better for me than using software.

I&#039;ve avoided the contractors, but we made the utterly insane decision to move about a week before the arrival of Amelia earlier this year.

The combination of a completely upended household, a new munchkin and trying to maintain a business that would cover all of the associated expenses should&#039;ve snagged me a star turn in a horror flick...  As Buck Owens might&#039;ve said:

&quot;George Romero&#039;s gonna put me in the movies.  He&#039;s gonna make a big star out of me.  He&#039;s gonna make another zombie movie.  And all I gotta do is act naturally.&quot;

Good luck.  It gets (marginally) better.  At least it does when contractors aren&#039;t involved.
.-= Carson Brackney&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://carsonbrackney.com/2009/10/lets-get-ready-to-ruuuuummmmmble-content-mills-and-cheap-content/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let’s Get Ready to Ruuuuummmmmble!  Content Mills and Cheap Content…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a low-hanging giant whiteboard on the wall and an assortment of fine-tipped markers for creating those maps when necessary.  I&#8217;m with you&#8211;drawing them works so much better for me than using software.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve avoided the contractors, but we made the utterly insane decision to move about a week before the arrival of Amelia earlier this year.</p>
<p>The combination of a completely upended household, a new munchkin and trying to maintain a business that would cover all of the associated expenses should&#8217;ve snagged me a star turn in a horror flick&#8230;  As Buck Owens might&#8217;ve said:</p>
<p>&#8220;George Romero&#8217;s gonna put me in the movies.  He&#8217;s gonna make a big star out of me.  He&#8217;s gonna make another zombie movie.  And all I gotta do is act naturally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good luck.  It gets (marginally) better.  At least it does when contractors aren&#8217;t involved.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Carson Brackney&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://carsonbrackney.com/2009/10/lets-get-ready-to-ruuuuummmmmble-content-mills-and-cheap-content/" rel="nofollow">Let’s Get Ready to Ruuuuummmmmble!  Content Mills and Cheap Content…</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Undead Copywriter Staggers Forth With a New Post by Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/10/18/the-undead-copywriter-staggers-forth-with-a-new-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113166</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;monster job&quot; do you mean raising a kid, or doing the Web site?

The site seems the simpler of the two to explain (and I don&#039;t understand babies yet anyway), so here&#039;s the secret: 

Build an image map/outline.

This project is 200+ pages of content - a lot of which I&#039;m not writing, but simply rewriting/editing (almost as much work). 

Today&#039;s Web sites typically use short copy counts on each page. Thus, the problem isn&#039;t writing the stuff, it&#039;s staying organized around the writing of the stuff.

I actually drew a visual map of the site and its pages, then highlighted those that needed new copy, and those that needed rewrites, and those the client was invariably forgetting even existed (and would probably need copy).

You could easily do the same with commercial flowchart/outline software, but I&#039;ve found that drawing something on paper is actually faster and you can mount the thing on the wall next to your desk and check off the pages as they fall...

Fodder for a post, if I could ever get some sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;monster job&#8221; do you mean raising a kid, or doing the Web site?</p>
<p>The site seems the simpler of the two to explain (and I don&#8217;t understand babies yet anyway), so here&#8217;s the secret: </p>
<p>Build an image map/outline.</p>
<p>This project is 200+ pages of content &#8211; a lot of which I&#8217;m not writing, but simply rewriting/editing (almost as much work). </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Web sites typically use short copy counts on each page. Thus, the problem isn&#8217;t writing the stuff, it&#8217;s staying organized around the writing of the stuff.</p>
<p>I actually drew a visual map of the site and its pages, then highlighted those that needed new copy, and those that needed rewrites, and those the client was invariably forgetting even existed (and would probably need copy).</p>
<p>You could easily do the same with commercial flowchart/outline software, but I&#8217;ve found that drawing something on paper is actually faster and you can mount the thing on the wall next to your desk and check off the pages as they fall&#8230;</p>
<p>Fodder for a post, if I could ever get some sleep.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Undead Copywriter Staggers Forth With a New Post by Dave Thackeray</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/10/18/the-undead-copywriter-staggers-forth-with-a-new-post/comment-page-1/#comment-113067</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Thackeray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like your animated writing style, Mr C. You inspire me. It&#039;s rare to be inspired and motivated at an early-hours stage of Monday, but you seem to have cracked the nut.

Keep on zombifying and good luck with the web project. Care to share how you set about tackling this monster job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like your animated writing style, Mr C. You inspire me. It&#8217;s rare to be inspired and motivated at an early-hours stage of Monday, but you seem to have cracked the nut.</p>
<p>Keep on zombifying and good luck with the web project. Care to share how you set about tackling this monster job?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekly Tweetfest by Tom Chandler</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/09/17/weekly-tweetfest-3/comment-page-1/#comment-112989</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChandlerWrites on twitter. I added your blog to my RSS feed. Funny stuff indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChandlerWrites on twitter. I added your blog to my RSS feed. Funny stuff indeed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekly Tweetfest by Leah</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/09/17/weekly-tweetfest-3/comment-page-1/#comment-112645</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I find you on Twitter to follow you? 
Sorry if I&#039;m missing an obvious link here...
Thanks!
.-= Leah&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://smellmycheese.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/curriculum-vitae/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Curriculum Vitae&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I find you on Twitter to follow you?<br />
Sorry if I&#8217;m missing an obvious link here&#8230;<br />
Thanks!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Leah&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://smellmycheese.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/curriculum-vitae/" rel="nofollow">Curriculum Vitae</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Blogging Universe (If It Were a Cafeteria) by links for 2009-10-15 &#124; Karen Goldfarb, Copywriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-10-15 &#124; Karen Goldfarb, Copywriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Comfort Is Your Enemy (or, Why Throwing Bricks Through Windows Is a Good Thing) by Nikolas Allen</title>
		<link>http://copywriterunderground.com/2009/09/21/comfort-is-your-enemy-or-why-throwing-bricks-through-windows-is-a-good-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-112470</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolas Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOM! I didn&#039;t know about the adoption plans. Wow, Congrats to you, N and Little M!

Love the Draino-Gasoline-Stove paragraph. Hopefully the actual anxiety won&#039;t be nearly as severe as the imagined.

Would love to chat with you when the jet-lag wears off.
.-= Nikolas Allen&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://nikolasallenart.com/2009/10/marketing-3-essential-rules/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mktng: 3 Essential Rules&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOM! I didn&#8217;t know about the adoption plans. Wow, Congrats to you, N and Little M!</p>
<p>Love the Draino-Gasoline-Stove paragraph. Hopefully the actual anxiety won&#8217;t be nearly as severe as the imagined.</p>
<p>Would love to chat with you when the jet-lag wears off.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Nikolas Allen&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://nikolasallenart.com/2009/10/marketing-3-essential-rules/" rel="nofollow">Mktng: 3 Essential Rules</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://copywriterunderground.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Comfort Is Your Enemy (or, Why Throwing Bricks Through Windows Is a Good Thing) by Tim Bete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Bete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Tom! Now that you&#039;re a dad, it&#039;s time to learn some dad things -- like teaching your new daughter to be a pirate ;-) You can read the free eBook at   www.PirateParenting.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Tom! Now that you&#8217;re a dad, it&#8217;s time to learn some dad things &#8212; like teaching your new daughter to be a pirate ;-) You can read the free eBook at   <a href="http://www.PirateParenting.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.PirateParenting.com</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>A Little Summer&#8217;s Almost Over Weekend Link Love : Freelance Writing Jobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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